religious nonsensical bastards

was talking to my happy co-worker today during lunch. i've finally found the ups of lunch: the day goes by much faster. i usually stay past five anyway, might as well take off in the middle of the day. anyway, i digress.

we were having a pretty good conversation about nothing in particular when he starts talking about church... damn it. why do the ones i'm cool with always have to be so damned religious. and so we begin. the whole i-don't-believe-in-anything speech yet again. and of course, now i have to hear why i should believe and that life without meaning makes no sense, blah blah crap. i don't understand these people. i let you go on your cheery little way, why won't you let me go on mine? why attack my beliefs? i haven't even started on yours yet. don't look at me with those pittiful eyes. damn you. and i thought you were cool, too. religion does things to you, makes you narrow-minded. i don't know if its possible to be open-minded and religiously christian/catholic at the same time. doesn't that faith require you to believe in it wholly, totally, and blindly? to believe in something so much can give you so much happiness. i don't doubt it. you have so much hope... but i can't help but wonder if its... i don't know. healthy isn't the right word, because being happy makes you healthy. i can't fathom blinding myself from everything else. having the answer to everything be 'only He knows' or 'He has a reason' just isn't enough. being a man of science, how can you believe so blindly, john?

as i read back on your last entry, i realized how inconsistent your reply was. i've highlighted it here.

-Pulled from October 19th, 2005 comments section.

me said...

"You think that Luck
Has left you there.
But maybe there's nothing
up in the sky but air.

And there's no mystical design,
No cosmic lover preassigned.
There's nothing you can find
that can not be found.
'Cause with all the changes
you've been through
It seems the stranger's always you.
Alone again in some new
Wicked little town.

So when you've got no other choice
You know you can follow my voice
Through the dark turns and noise
Of this wicked little town.
Oh it's a wicked, little town.
Goodbye, wicked little town."

10:21 AM

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6:57 PM

John said...

Surprisingly both comments make the same amount of sense to me. I guess you don't have time or are too tired to argue with me anymore. It's ok, I'll pray enough for the both of us.

8:22 PM

Jack said...

Faith is blind. You just have bad eyes and read it wrong.

12:58 AM

John said...

Alright. BRING IT ON! If faith is blind, what difference does it make if I have bad eyes?

2:36 PM

Jack said...

Nothing really, but the matter that you have bad eyes gives reason to you mistakenly think the final was on Wednesday instead of Monday. Hence, logic prevails, not blind faith.

9:56 PM

John said...

That is exactly my point as I stated in the blog. It is illogical. That is why blind faith prevails because it is blind and illogical.

10:58 PM

me said...

If there is a God, then why did he/she give you midterms and finals on the same day on all your previous quarters? and by pure chance this quarter, it just so happened that one of your midterms' date was changed and suddenly there is a god? so what happened to all the other times when misfortune took place? are you going to ignore that? you only pay attention to the good and say there is a god. as i argued before, if there is a god, then Louisiana survivors would not be survivors, but normal Louisiana people. not victims. people are thankful to god because they are saved from this catastrophe, but if there were a god, then there would be no catastrophe. god almighty did it. and he/she scheduled all your midterms on the same date during your previous quarters, as well. you give him/her too much credit for one lousy, stinkin' event.

2:18 AM

John said...

God is ultimately responsible for everything that happens, since He created man. When a misfortune takes place he is also responsible for it because it is part of His plan. Just because there is a God doesn't mean bad things don't happen. This isn't heaven.

So to use your example. God created Katrina and God killed all those people. But He also spared some of them. Why did He do it? Beats me. Ever heard of Noah and his Ark. God is a jealous God not a teddybear. So if your parents got killed in the disaster, you say, "Why God, why are are you doing this?" And if your house is still standing with no damage, you say, "Thank you God, for protecting me."

What do you mean too much credit? I thank him for his blessings and I curse Him for my first 24 years of existence.

1:29 PM

me said...

so does this mean you take no responsibility for your life? if you have free will, then you can't blame him/her. but at the same time, he/she created everything and all your problems. so he/she was so masterful that he/she gave you free will knowing how everything would turn out. so the free will he/she gave you isn't really freewill after all since he/she already knows what you are going to do and how you are going to turn out. i mean after all, it was all a part of his/her grand desgin, right?

1:43 AM

John said...

Thought we already had this discussion already. But I think there's nothing left that can be said except we disagree. God gives me free will to choose. Just because He knows what I will choose beforehand doesn't make it any less my choice. He has a plan and I am destined to act according to His plan. So therefore, I have no choice but to follow His plan. But since I don't know what that plan is, the choices are mine to make.

You see black and I see white.

9:23 PM